Lt Rich Z Spray vs Permagreen Triumph

A zspray versus permagreen
The definitive guide to the best overall machine

Today’s post is the most in-depth post I have done to date. It took several days to complete and hours of research/ reflecting on my own personal experience to answer the question; z spray vs permagreen, which machine wins. The reason I made a post this big and broad is because of you, the reader, seeking out a side by side comparison of the two machines. The way I decided to do this is what I thought would serve you the reader the best. I built a large table comparing each machine, side by side. I broke the table into different categories like spray systems and pricing, to make it easy to compare what matters most to you. After the table I pick a few categories that need a bit more explaining, so check below for that.

 

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L.T. Rich intermediate Z-Spray  Vs. Permagreen Triumph

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Category Z-Spray Permagreen Winner

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Engine 16 Horse power Briggs and Stratton™ Vanguard 200cc Honda™ GX200-RH2 Permagreen

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Weight 680 lbs 690 lbs Draw

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Dimensions (lxwxh) 72″x46″x54″ 58″x35.5″x41″ Permagreen

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Drive Train Variable displacement hydraulic pumps Trans-axle 2 forward gears, 1 neutral, 1 reverse Z-Spray

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Fertilizing Efficiency

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Category Z-Spray Permagreen Winner

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Max Speed 8 MPH 5 MPH Z-Spray

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Reversible? yes yes draw

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Zero Turn? yes no Z-Spray

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Hopper Size 220 lbs + 100 lbs in saddle bags 150 lbs Z-Spray

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Acres per hour 5 3 Z-Spray

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Spread Swath 16 Ft 10 Ft Z-Spray

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Spray System

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Category Z-Spray Permagreen Winner

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Spray Tank Size 18 gal 12 gal Z-Spray

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Spray Swath 8 Ft Permagreen claims 11 Ft, that is a lie about 6 Ft Z-Spray

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Default Spray Rate .33 Gal per K .25 Gal per K draw

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Spray Pump 4 GPM electric diaphragm pump 2 GPM diaphragm pump Z-Spray

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Repairs

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Category Z-Spray Permagreen Winner

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Reliability Moderate Excellent Permagreen

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Easy to Repair? Engine work no; sprayer, spreader and pumps yes Easy Permagreen

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Safety

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Category Z-Spray Permagreen Winner

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Brake Type tight hydraulics and hand brake on tires hand-operated, 4.0″ band brakes on the sulky Z-Spray

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Ability to stop mediocre poor Z-Spray

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Traction good good draw

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Saftey on hills will not flip operator lower hopper on triumph helps but still scary Z-Spray

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Learning Curve 1-2 months 1 month Permagreen

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Value

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Category Z-Spray Permagreen Winner

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Cost New $9095 $7496 Permagreen

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Financing? offered; 0% Apr at John Deere offered periodically offered; 0% Apr at John Deere offered periodically draw

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Parts Cost expensive fair many after market Permagreen

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Used Machine Market slow many available Permagreen

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Re-sale value High poor Z-Spray

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Permagreen Triumph- 8 categories won

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L.T. Rich Z-Spray intermediate- 13 categories won

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Better Machine- L.T. Rich Z-Spray intermediate

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Engine

I had to give this one to permagreen. A honda is an engine that has survived the test of time. It is what we all think of when we picture the ideal small engine and it doesn’t disappoint on this machine either. I know that you can picture some honda 5.5 hooked up to a piece of equipment that is always outdoors, never had an oil change or a carb cleaning, and it still starts every time without failing. Well that’s what you get here, a solid engine made for hard use.

On the other hand Lt Rich chose to go with a Briggs and Stratton Vanguard engine. What they were thinking I will never know, why not choose a kawasaki or even the newer subaru’s ( which are actually pretty strong engines). Instead you get a briggs with all the baggage and issues that entails.

For starters if the machine  encounters mild moisture it bogs down, backfiring and sometimes not even starting.  A design flaw in the spark plugs allowing moisture in is the reason for this. My best advice is change the plugs to a high-end pair, it helped with mine but even so it still has its issues.

There is a myriad of other problems with a briggs that I am not going to get into. I did ask Lt Rich why they chose a briggs, they’re reply is to help keep your cost down which is a fair response but I hope in the future they reconsider, this beautiful machine deserves better.

Dimensions

For dimensions I have to give Permagreen the win because sub 36 inches wide will fit through a residential gate. There is a caveat being that if you go with the Z-Spray jr. it will fit through a gate as well and is probally the better choice for a company doing strictly residential fertilization.

Acres per hour

Both of these acre per hour values are based on my experience with each machine. Both of the web pages for the manufactures claim higher values but is based on doing wide open flat areas and does not account for re-fill time.

Spray Swath

The 11 foot swath is directly from Permagreen’s web page and I am just as confused as you are…? The Permagreen has a smaller swath than Z-Spray, which has extendable spray arms and claims an eight foot swath on their site and that is accurate to my experience with the Z spray.

Repairs and parts

The Z-Spray is flawed in this one area. Working on the engine, which is set under the spray tank, is difficult at best, sometimes impossible without removing the spray tank which can take several hours to complete a job. Also considering that the briggs engine is not the best I have to give it to Permagreen. Also parts from LT Rich are absurdly expensive, like wheel bearings for $200. That said the need for repairs do not occur that often and preventative maintenance goes a long way, it is not a reason to not buy a Z-spray.

Safety

I wrote a stand alone post on safety that is found here, the Z-spray is by far the safest machine on the market. It’s wide, low stance help it to stay upright even in a down hill, out of control slide and the front locking casters are amazing for working on hills safely.

On the other hand Permagreens have been known to catapult people into the air, which is never good. I know two men who have suffered broken bones due to the instability of Permagreen. Both men have suffered some loss of quality of life as a result. This single point is the breaking point for many businesses using permagreens, no company wants employees on unsafe equipment.

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